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Will he get the job?

Hello guys... I've just done another horary chart a few days ago. At first glance, I had perfect confidence that the answer was yes.

I used:
Uranus as significator of querent because it was the rising planet.
Moon as co-sig of both querent and situation.
Jupiter as significator of quesited. Actually Jupiter is also the true significator of querent but because there can only be one significator of quesited, I have opted to use Jupiter for quesited instead.

Jupiter makes a sextile aspect to Uranus. The Moon is separating from a conjunction with Pluto and will conjunct Jupiter before moving out of Capricorn. I thought that was an indication of yes.

No dignities can be found for Uranus. But Jupiter is in terms in Cap at 19 degrees and Moon is in night triplicity in Cap as well.

 


But after thinking about it for awhile, a few questions popped up.

1) Can trans-Saturnian planets be used in horary and what are their dignities?
2) Is it possible to use the rising planet as a significator in the event that its actual significator is the same as the quesited? Or should the secondary ruler be used, i.e. Neptune in this case. 
3) If Neptune was used instead, and there is no aspect between Jupiter and Neptune, but the moon will make is last aspect with Jupiter before leaving the sign, what should the answer be to the above question?

Thanks guys for helping me out.

Update: He did not get the job (as shown by chart) but the people who knew he was applying for this job was quite surprised that he didn't get it. Is there anyone out there knowledgeable enough to read more into the chart and find out what went wrong? Would be quite interesting to learn to delve deeper into horary charts.
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typically only teh traditional planets are used in horary.
That's what I thought too. So should I just use the Moon as significator of the querent and leave Jupiter to be the significator of the quesited? Or is there a special meaning when both significator of querent and quesited is the same planet?
Is it the guy asking himself or is it you asking for him?
Erm, that's a little unclear. He was worrying about whether he got the job or not and I got fed up with listening to his worries and asked him if he would like a horary chart done and he said ok. So I did it.

Would that have made a difference?
It can, but in this case not really.
But he is a Pisces sun. And one of the things he was worried about was that he never stayed too long in a job before applying for this and he was worried about that especially. I thought the Uranus in Pisces rising rightly signified his worries.
Well, either way I look at it, seems nothing will come of the matter.

Since #1's been answered:

2) Planets for the person in question (assuming the querent is the guy involved and NOT you) would be Jupiter and Mars, co-sig is always Moon for the querent. If the person in question DID NOT ask the question for this chart, then his planets would be Mercury and Venus only.

3) You wouldn't use Neptune anyway so this question is pretty moot. But regardless, there is no aspect, so the answer would be "nothing will come of it."
Ok thanks. So I guess he won't get the job then. He will probably know by the end of this week so will update you guys.

Anonymous

June 28 2008, 11:52:09 UTC 8 years ago

So, he is Ju and Moon and job is Ju. Because he and job has same significator, we use Moon for him and Ju for job(ruler of 10th house).
Moon will conjunct Ju, so, he will get the job!


Greetings,
Goca
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That is what I thought too at first. But unfortunately, even using Lily's widest orbs, the Moon and Jupiter is about 27 degrees too far apart for a conjunction aspect. Apparently, if there is not aspect at all between the querent and quesited, even if the moon and jupiter makes mutual application, the answer is probably no.

And it is. He didn't get the job. Was a real bummer for him and a surprise to everyone else who knew about him applying for this job.
You ask if HE will get job. I do not know what happened and how I pick up Moon for him, but he is represented with Me, ruler of 7 house, not Moon. Me and Ju, ruler of 10th has no applaying aspect, so the answer is "no". Moon make conjunction, but in this case it is your co significator and has no effect on outcome.

Greetings,
Goca
http://www.geocities.com/astrosport88